Keith Grabowski (00:02)
On today’s coaching coordinator podcast, we’re talking to a four-time state champion from a nationally known program, the DeS from Texas. Joseph Floyd, he’s the receiver’s coach. He’s been a part of four state championships there. Prior to that, he was a middle school coach there with an impeccable record, 52-0. We’re gonna talk to about him about what he learned from that experience. But coach, we’re excited to have you here, get you on the podcast, and talk some ball.

Joseph Loyd (00:30)
Thank you, Keith, for having me. I really appreciate you guys and I appreciate shout out to Christian and Modern Football for having me. Appreciate you.

Keith Grabowski (00:39)
Yeah,

absolutely. Well coach, let’s let our audience know a little bit about you here. I mentioned the four state championships. I also mentioned a fifty two and record, coach in middle school. But you you’ve had some great experiences in football and and really some some great mentors along the way too. Tell us a little bit about your background in the game.

Joseph Loyd (00:58)
Well, I graduated college from Stephen F. Austin State University in deep east Texas. near my hometown. I’m originally from Lufkin, Texas. So it’s funny I always when I mention, you know, Lufkin. Some people, you know, know where Lufkin is, but then when they don’t, all I have to say is one word. you know where Dez Brown is from?

You know, same high school. So you know, and then they like, okay. But yeah,

Keith Grabowski (01:28)
Mm-hmm.

Joseph Loyd (01:28)
so graduated from Stephen F. Austin, had some, you know, had some suitors, that I was entertaining, and I ended up landing at Nackerdoches High School for a year. it was close to home, didn’t have to uproot my family. so that was the best situation for me. And during that year, I ended up connecting with with our

Head coach and and leader, Coach Claude Mathis here at DeSoto during that year. And he offered me a position and he told me, you know, straight up at that time, you know, he did not have a varsity opportunity available. would I be willing to, you know, accept a middle school gig. So I was like, yeah, for you know, a nationally ranked program.

Such as the Soto, sure. You know, I’m not a I’m I I I I don’t shy away from hard work. you know, my mom and and and and you know, and grandmother and dad you know, raised me to work hard and earn your sh earn your stripes. So that’s the mindset that I had going into the Soto. so arrived there twenty fourteen. you know, did what I h set out to do, you know, tryna worked hard, learn what I needed to learn and

Just kinda kept progressing, you know, in my career there. And end up getting blessed with an opportunity to pursue a a coordinator job there at one of our most popular middle schools, McCowan Middle School. And that experience kinda kinda helped shape me as a coach. and I know you know, coach, you’ve been doing this for a while.

I’ve heard a lot of athletic directors and head coaches say, you know, you ain’t coach ball until you’ve coached at middle school level. And I, you know, I didn’t I didn’t know what that meant. You know, I was young, naive. I’m like, you know, no, I wanna, you know, I came from a varsity program. I want to go right into varsity, but man, when I tell you, you know, I I’m I’m I’m I’m thankful and grateful that God blessed me with that opportunity and I was able to experience that

for about five years as a coordinator of DeSoto McCown Middle School ’cause it helped shape me. it helped me build lifelong connections with you know current, you know, staff members, administration parents and and and and young athletes. So

I f I would like to say I did a pretty good job, you know, in that experience. and then, you know, I was blessed with another opportunity to climb the ladder to the freshman football program here at DeSoto, where I served as receiver coach and and offensive coordinator there. So again, just soaked it all in, you know, we we had a you know a great head freshman coach.

Who’s still there doing his thing? Coach Dennis Walker. great guy. Shout out to him. and stayed with the freshman staff for two years and and this will be my official second year going into the the varsity program with that staff and man I’m just enjoying the ride and loving it.

Keith Grabowski (05:07)
Yeah, well let’s let’s focus a little bit on that the middle school experience. I mean, that is not an easy group to coach. I mean, you have you’re out there coaching the same game that you are now at the varsity level, but you have these kids and and where they are in their developmental stages

Joseph Loyd (05:24)
Yes.

Keith Grabowski (05:24)
of you know the

the immaturity, like not not being able to communicate and like you have to engage. You have to and learn to engage those athletes in a in a different way, in a way that probably makes you much better down the line to engage some of the more mature athletes. And I and I would say you’ve you guys did an excellent job. I mean a 52 and record at that level I think speaks volumes, but it doesn’t happen without being able to connect with your athletes, being able to engage and teach the game to them. So

What

were some of the things really you est established for yourself as a coach at that level that are translating now to the varsity level?

Joseph Loyd (06:07)
great. Thank you for asking that, man. It’s it’s like, you know, I I f I feel again, you know, I’m I emphasize God a lot. I’m a very spiritual guy, you know, and I b I believe that he puts, you know, pieces and people in your path for a reason. So my first campus at DeSoto Forest Middle School was at DeSoto East Middle School. And one of my

best buddies, he was the coordinator there. And he was going through a transition where he was you know, looking to accept another opportunity outside of our district, right? So it was myself and two other coaches who was there and you know it nobody really wanted to take those reins over to

lead the remainder of the school year as a coordinator. So, you know, I just, you know, I I felt something on my chest and in my spirit that, you know, coach, you need to, you know, you need to step up and take take control. So that experience there at DeSoto East that spring semester kind of, you know, helped shape me and helped me build the confidence that I needed. And again, look at God. All of a sudden an opportunity opens up.

at you know the largest middle school here in DeSoto which was McCowan and I applied for it, you know, talked to, you know, our athletic director and, you know, and and and and coach Mathis and, you know, I was blessed with that opportunity. And so going into that, honestly, you know, I I was you know, I was a bit nervous, you know, going into that because now, you know, I have to lead the program, you know, and

You know, you know, Everything rests on my shoulders whether we are successful or we fail, you know, right? So and I had to you know, work with our head coach to help build the staff over there. So that was an experience in itself. But you know, I was just blessed, you know, at McCown to have you know, great athletes, great young athletes, you know, so I learned

how to you know kind of bond with those guys kind of you know on a level where you know we’re not just talking about sports. you know Coach Math has always had, you know, he has a saying that if I just taught you about sports and athletics I failed you as a coach. So I kind of take take on that mentality too during my experience there at McCowan.

As their head coach, of, you know, I want to teach them about life. I want to teach them about how to be great young men and women. You know, have I made every right? Everything have I did everything right in my life? Absolutely not, you know, but I’ve learned from those mistakes and those challenges

and and and obstacles and things like that. also, you know, during my time there at the middle school level, you know, you know, built a great, you know, relationship with you know with a lot of different parents. you know, so that was a aspect that I was kinda learning and new at as well. You know, just the relationship aspect of everything.

because I mean again you know you know if you wanna if you if you want a parent to you know to trust that y you know you with your you know with the development and and you know and things of their child far as an athletic standpoint you gotta connect some type of way. and I feel I was able to do that. So we’ve you know we had great seasons, you know,

ups and downs, but, you know, in the long run we end up finishing the tasks, you know, of you know, winning, you know, middle school district titles and championships and things like that. but, you know, definitely, you know, it wasn’t all me, whatever. you know, had great staffs, you know, throughout those five years and again had great athletes to help me along the way with that accomplishment.

Keith Grabowski (10:43)
So I think you you bring some unique perspective to this and that now you are at the varsity level. But Claude Mathis, right, being the guy who is the the head coach of that nationally ranked program, what

Joseph Loyd (10:53)
Absolutely.

Keith Grabowski (10:54)
did you learn or or what were the things that really helped

you guys be successful as he’s looking at his his program down to the lower levels, looking it at the the middle schools and helping build and develop that. I mean, what what’s his approach to it that, you know, when when you look at it now being up at the top, it’s like, yeah, that’s this is why we’re so good.

Joseph Loyd (11:16)
Man, it’s it’s it’s it’s great you asked that, ’cause it’s it’s unreal, you know, how our program operates. For example, I

Again, I come from East Texas and just, you know, kind of being around you know, some of the programs back home and don’t get me wrong, great programs and everything like that, but always seen a disconnect from the varsity level to the middle school campuses and staffs, you know,

middle school coaches, you know, back where I come from, you know, like it’s kinda like voluntary, you know, you can, yeah, you can come to varsity practice, shadow, you know, you know, help out, you know, if you’re able, if you want to. so I was kinda, you know, that was kinda like a culture shock when I got up here to DeSoto. well my mentality, I was gonna do it anyways, but you know, coach

kinda, you know, encouraged us, you know, and kinda, you know, definitely held us accountable at the middle school level, to be involved. All right, because again, you know, when you’re in this business, you know, you know, if you have aspiration of, you know, of professional development and growth, you you know, you wanna yeah, you wanna put your best foot forward no matter at what level you’re on.

A a quote that I always liked, that I heard a minister say one time was, you know, you know, prepare, you know, don’t, don’t.

Prepare for where you’re at, prepare for where you’re going. So that’s my mindset and what I always try to do. great support during my time at the middle school level from our varsity staff, coordinators as well as Coach Mathis, always on the campus, always there, you know, building those relationships with us coaches and the middle school athletes because those are feeder schools, you know, and

I don’t know if you know anything about South Dallas area or whatever, but you know, we’re surrounded. We’re like in the Mecca.

Right. so we’re surrounded by the Duncanville’s,

Keith Grabowski (13:35)
Yeah.

Joseph Loyd (13:36)
the Cedar Hills, you know, especially when I came in, it was the Joey McGuire days, you know, who’s head coach of Texas Tech right now, leading that program. So now you got the Walks of Hatchies, you know, the Red Oaks, Lancaster, and then the inner city Dallas Schools like South Oak Cliff, you know, so you got a lot of different programs. These kids and parents have a lot of different choices.

to go to. So relationships is very important in this in this neck of the woods in order to keep these kids you know engaged and excited about pursuing you know continuing their athletic career at the high school level here at DeSoto. So and Coach Mathis is the driving force of that, you know, of that engine for sure.

Keith Grabowski (14:27)
Yeah, for for you and looking at the the influence, the impact he’s had on you as a a a mentor, what what would you say is the biggest lesson you’ve learned from him that has helped you as a coach?

Joseph Loyd (14:41)
I would say I always resort back to the our first interview that that you know that I was privileged to have with coach. it was a question that he asked me. and never forget it. he asked me, you know, if if I were in his shoes, you know, as a as a hiring manager, you know, interviewing someone else, would I value

What would I value more? Would I value you know, the fact that, you know, that coach is you know, he’s he’s a whiz with the X’s and O’s, or would I value the loyalty of it all? And and you know, without even thinking, you know, I I said loyalty. And he smiled and kinda smirked and he was like, you know, y you nailed it. you know. so that’s one of the biggest things, you know,

you know, that that that I’ve learned from him is is the loyalty aspect, you know, how to lead a a program. Again, when I had my opportunity to lead the middle school, well, a lot of my leadership qualities for as a coach and how I carried myself came from my observations of him over the years and how he, you know, led our varsity program.

Keith Grabowski (16:07)
Yeah, it’s it’s great stuff and I know now and being on the varsity level and you guys won it last year,

Joseph Loyd (16:14)
Yeah, sure.

Keith Grabowski (16:15)
which which I mean to to win four, I mean shoot, to win one nowadays is a tough thing, but you you know, four now since you’ve been there, including

Joseph Loyd (16:22)
Yes sir.

Keith Grabowski (16:23)
last year. Last year being your first year on staff, one of your responsibilities on game day and really think now

I think now with the tools available and you guys use modern football, your role becomes pretty important because the work you do is providing insight

during the game. And it used to be, I was telling you before, you know, using using these charts, you know, as an offensive coordinator before, and I will be using modern football myself this this fall with our staff, is I would have

Joseph Loyd (16:54)
Yes, that’s true.

Keith Grabowski (16:55)
I had really two of these. I had my calls, which my guys highlight in our efficient plays and circling explosives, and then we had another guy charting the defense. And so what happens in between as a process when you’re pen and paper is you’re taking two of these and putting them together

to figure out where’s the pattern looking at it. I mean you only have shoot, you got a minute to do that, right? Because then

Joseph Loyd (17:17)
Absolutely.

Keith Grabowski (17:18)
you gotta you gotta make an adjustment. Talk to the QB. Like for you get the information to the coach so he can do all those things. I mean it’s just not very efficient. A lot of times it doesn’t happen until halftime where we make some sense out of those things, right? So very important role though. And now you got a tool that you get insights now from everything you are charting

in between every series, like live. And it’s hap happening like that. It’s not all right, what is this? And highlight this and it is done. You got it in front of you. Here’s where we’re efficient. Here’s where we’re explosive. Here’s the touches that we have for certain players. Here’s what we’re seeing in a change versus what we had play planned. They’re doing something different now. So talk to us a little bit about, you know, your role in in providing that that real-time in-game

analytical data to to your play caller.

Joseph Loyd (18:13)
Yes, sir. All right. So, you know, as a coach, you know, you know, we can be kind of stubborn at times, you know, what what’s worked for us in the past, you know, we want to continue doing or whatever. And you know, and like you said, you know, you have your paper, you know, you’re taking your notes. so mainly my my role on f on Friday nights, you know, I’m one of the one of the booth coaches.

You know, and obviously my job is to see one side of the field. That way, you know, our our head and lead receiver coach and co offensive coordinator, Carrie Sweeney, just kind of, you know, to help give him some perspective on what’s going on on the far side of the field. also while doing that, I’m also charting the offensive

down and distance, you know, and and and and play results. sometime when I can get to it, the coverages and and things like that. But we also have other coaches that assist in that matter. and when I tell you I I was having to do all of that on on on on you know on paper as well as communicate what I’m seeing on the field in in game so we can make those adjustments.

the modern football aspect has made a world of difference for me as a coach and made my job ten times easier for sure. you know, we you know we live in a in a age of computers and and AI, you know, is kind of kind of being pushed down our throats right now and and

Keith Grabowski (20:05)
Yeah.

Joseph Loyd (20:06)
and analytics and all of that good stuff. And it can be a little intimidating

you know, from for you know, for coaches who’ve been doing it the old school way and who’ve been taught how to do it the old school way. but, you know, again, I feel like I’m steady evolving as a coach, you know, year by year. like I said, I believe I’m a life learner. So I was open to it. when they when when my coordinators approached me, with the opportunity. again, shout out to our special teams,

coordinator and associate head coach, Coach Boeing. he was the one that connected with Christian in modern football first, and came to me with the idea. And and boy am I glad he did because it it did wonders for us in our state championship run this year. just you know the analytic aspect of it and then going back to Coach Matthews, he’s big on stats and

Keith Grabowski (21:10)
Mm-hmm.

Joseph Loyd (21:11)
That’s one of my duties as well. when we come in after after Friday night games or Saturday night games, you know, I’m the you know, I’m the statistician as well, for our program. and you know, he likes to know those stats in game. You know, we have a you know, we have a star running back, as you know, SaRod Baker, who’s been nationally recognized and you know in our

Star receiver who who’s at USC now, Ethan will be feaster. And you know, he would wanna know, hey, you know, how many catches, how many yards, you know, how many carries, you know, does Sarod have right now? And you know, before I’m on paper and I’m having to hey coach, give

Keith Grabowski (21:57)
Yeah.

Joseph Loyd (21:59)
me a second. I hey, I got my phone out, I’m calculating that stuff, all that data, man, and man, it was a headache, you know. But with the modern football

Man, you know, I’m live tagging that stuff right there. So now, you know, when I get a call up to the booth, you know, him wanting that data and things like that, or or OCs wanting to know something, man, I can just I can just go to that iPad, man, and just boom boom boom and look that information up and get it to him, all right, very fast. So

Keith Grabowski (22:32)
Yeah, I mean i when you got a guy like that, it’s important you’re getting him his touches, right? And and how we’re getting him involved.

Joseph Loyd (22:36)
Yeah.

Keith Grabowski (22:37)
I mean, that’s a centerpiece of the game plan. And but it’s not easy to stay on top of it when you’re s you’re sitting here trying to to count up all the things and where where we at with it and how we perform it

Joseph Loyd (22:49)
Après.

Keith Grabowski (22:49)
and I mean it it I would say the insight you start to get now, in real time becomes extremely useful. Like I said, a lot of the time y you know, it took to half time.

To make heads or tails of these things, but now it’s boy, we know some things right away that are useful to a play caller. And you’re looking at this the state championship run. I mean, can you think of any examples of something that pops out like, boy, this was this was something like knowing this right away was extremely helpful in this win.

Joseph Loyd (23:23)
Yes, sir. So modern football it has in tools on there like boys the like I said the analytics side where we’re we’re a tempo offense, so w we move fast, especially you know, after explosive plays. So it gets kind of, you know, difficult trying to you know keep pace. so

like I told Christian and again, Christian was very helpful. the first game, the first couple games. Okay, he man, he flew down to Texas and kind of you know sat in the booth with me and kind of helped train me live on the spot. I mean, I mean, how how many CEOs would do that? You know, so

Keith Grabowski (24:11)
Right. Right.

Joseph Loyd (24:14)
again, shout out to him. He made it a lot easy, easier for me.

to you know to learn the system and everything like that but for as going back to that state championship example we might have called like an RPO and things like that and you know after that drive you know you know our OC coach Charles Williams does a fantastic job with our kids and our program

You know, he called up and, you know, was, you know, wanted to know, hey, how many times have we hit on on inside zone? you know, and you know, I was able to go to just to that modern football app and tell him, Hey, coach, inside zone, you know, it it’s hitting to the to the field side, you know, about you know, fifty percent of our time, you know. and then coach Sweeney, again our passing game coordinator,

He wanted to know a time or two, hey, how many time have have have our pen concept worked, you know? and I was able to just go to that app, man, and just tell him, hey, coach, we you know, we’ve hit pen three out of four times, you know, or whatever. And you know, who’s the target, you know? could have been Ethan Feaster, could have been Antron Edmondson, one of our

other s star receivers at that time. so very helpful.

Keith Grabowski (25:50)
Yeah. Now you mentioned you guys are in up tempo operation and I I know what a nightmare of of of we were we were up tempo, really up tempo at Tom’s you know, w when I last coach and hey guys like, what did you write here? Like they’re just trying to scribble stuff down and keep up with it. the easy use being an up tempo team, the easy use of of getting this and and really having it on the iPad I think is magic.

Joseph Loyd (26:16)
yeah. So the funny thing because, you know, like I said, i just could just imagine, you know, you know, you’re in the drive and you know, and and man, just like our our goal is to is a call and execute a play within four seconds, after each play. So that’s our philosophy. So we go fast. So I’m trying to write all of this down, plus, you know, I’m up trying

Keith Grabowski (26:43)
Yeah.

Joseph Loyd (26:44)
to see the feel as well.

And so I was I I I’m not gonna lie to you, I was frustrated you know, in the beginning trying to transition my old school Kay pen and paper to the digital aspect of the of the modern football app. And in in in Coast Bourne he was like, you know, ’cause he sitting next to me up in up in the booth, he was like, Lloyd, just just you know, hey, just

Forget about what we, you know, how we’re trying to tell you to do it. Just, you know, you’re the one working with when you know, with the app and the

Keith Grabowski (27:22)
Yes.

Joseph Loyd (27:22)
system every day. find your own groove. Do it do it how you what’s best for you and how you want to do it. And once, you know, once once they gave me that freedom to do that, and I, you know, I kind of start getting into my groove now, you know, but like I told Christian, what works for me.

is you know, I still I still a chart that stuff like during the drives live I’ll chart it on paper and then as soon as that offensive drive is over, you know I got my modern football app up on my iPad and then I’ll just tag it quick. Doom doom doom. You know, while the defense is going on on the field or the special teams, I’m tagging. Boom. And then by the next offensive series, you know, I’m back

You know, I’m back up, you know, charting it by hand or whatever. And and and and so that I mean it may sound kinda weird, but but you know, but I mean it’s hard to you know, t you know, to do all of that tagging while the tempo is going on. It’s just easier me. I’m quicker with my hand and a pencil being a former artist, you know, so that worked for me.

Keith Grabowski (28:35)
Yeah, yeah. Well I think the thing I’ve heard from everybody who’s used it is and and I’m paying attention to this as a coordinator, is I am not gonna be the guy who’s operating it. I need to let that guy have his process, right? Like that train

Joseph Loyd (28:51)
Go.

Keith Grabowski (28:52)
certainly train him on the things that I want from it, but not

Joseph Loyd (28:55)
Yes.

Keith Grabowski (28:56)
get in the way of of doing it. I think that’s the the message I’ve heard consistently is

You know, train on what you want and get out of the way and let them figure it out. What’s been funny too is some of our most successful at using this have have

student managers have somebody who’s, you know, not necessarily a football person. I mean, we had the state champ from Wisconsin actually had his wife doing it, and she said she said, we had her on the podcast, she I don’t even know the difference between a punt and an extra point. Like you know, you know, so what but whatever helps you move fastest, I think is the most important thing because it is a tool that is gonna give you that data. And like you said, when you guys are asking before that, I mean those questions that they asked you, they already had something on their mind.

Needed that data, you were able to give it to them in real time. And I think that’s the the magic of what modern football’s doing. But I guess transitioning all this, you know, one of the things you talked to me about was just trust in the process. And and you know, you’ve you’ve had this, I think, personal experience. Like you told me when you were leaving college and and getting into things, there was a a thought of you know.

being an artist, theater, all those kinds of things that were your interest. But for you it was was kind of sitting back and listening to what what does God need you to do and trusting that process and letting it get you to where you want to be. And obviously we we’ve seen you’ve talked to us about just the the progression that you have in your career. and I think that certainly applies obviously to athletes and to coaches who are listening in general, but talk to us about

You know, your your thoughts on trust in the process.

Joseph Loyd (30:37)
Man, you know, I’m I I’m I’m not a guy that’s, you know, this, you know, afraid to share my faith. you know, I’m a Christian, you know, I was raised a Christian all my life. So, you know, Nothing is possible or have been possible in my life without you know, trusting in God, a lot of prayer, a a lot of support

that God has put behind me through people. so yeah, so I I’m a big believer in trusting the process, right? And just, you know, trying not to be out of trying to get out of my own way, and not trying to be as stubborn as I was as a youth, and believing that this is all happening because of me, right? So I’ve

you know, I’ve progressed through my life and my career, just following that motto of just trusting the process, you know, letting the chips fall where they may, you know, praying on the situation, touching my hands, you know, and everything. always, you know, tell tell this story of, you know, of you know really before I even, you know,

had contact with Coach Mathis, you know, I I like to have my ducks in a row. I like to do my research. So when I was considering moving my family from East Texas, you know, to to to Dallas, you know, I s you know, I s

Started doing my research, you know, getting on the getting on the internet, you know, looking looking at programs, you know, researching the head coaches, the athletic directors, the players and all of that. And, you know, told my wife, you know, I said, Babe, you know, you know me, I’m a spiritual guy. So I said, Let’s l you know, let’s take this three hour drive from East Texas to DeSoto. I you know, I just wanna I just wanna step foot on the campus, right, and just get a feel.

of you know of my spirit on that campus, the energy of it and and and to just pray on site. And and and and and you know and I’m glad I did. God opened that door and he helped connect me with the right people to help give me you know an opportunity to get in. And it worked out. So just trust in the process, you know, i everything’s not gonna go your way. That’s what I would encourage, you know, any young coach. I got a chance

to connect with several young coaches getting into this business at at our Texas High School Coaches Association conference in Houston this past weekend. And that was one of the things that I encouraged them as they start their journey. you know again be a sponge you know learn as much as you can learn.

Never think that you don’t don’t come into this business thinking that you know it all because you don’t. you have to take the mentality of being a life learner. and

Keith Grabowski (33:40)
Mm-hmm.

Joseph Loyd (33:41)
no matter if you know you’re if it’s if you’re learning or or the head coach is saying something, down to a middle school assistant, you know, everyone’s opinion you know, you should value that, right? because you can learn something.

from everybody.

Okay, so you know, I’m blessed that you know that I came in and was not, you know, arrogant enough or stubborn enough to accept a middle school job coming from where I had already started my career as a varsity coach at Nacadotes, right? you know, I Again, got out of my way and I just trusted in God and trusted that process that Lord, I don’t know where you’re leading me, right? Bite, But you know, maybe

be taking a step back towards, you know, the level that I’m at, but I know you’re doing this for a reason. And you know, and I know you’re gonna eventually you know, elevate me to where I need to be. You know, So I I’ve I’ve you know coached at every level in this program or whatever and it’s taught me you know everything that I needed to know

All right, to be successful at the opportunity that I’m in the role that I’m currently playing. with this program at the Soto right now. All right. So

Again, just to tie all that together, yeah, I’m I’m gonna continue to preach, trust the process, because you don’t know what path God might, you know, lead you down, right? Or whatever. Cause, you know, oftentimes what we want for our path in life isn’t what he wants, you know, and you know, I I I I’m I’m I’m trying to be mindful of that, you know, as I go through my journey.

Keith Grabowski (35:31)
Absolutely. Our our our job in that is to go and to keep moving forward and to listen. And it’ll

Joseph Loyd (35:37)
Yes, yeah.

Keith Grabowski (35:38)
it’ll all work out. So I appreciate that. Thank you for sharing that message. Thanks for sharing about your journey and and the things that you’ve done and and being part of an incredible program there at DeSoto. best of luck here to you and the Eagles as you defend your state championship in twenty twenty six.

Joseph Loyd (35:56)
Yes, sir. Keith, thank you for having me. I really appreciate you.